Skipp a écrit :
Non. Les mots "Phénicien" et "Puniques" ont bien la même racine mais ils proviennent du grec et non de l'égyptien.
Et si les grecs avaient pris ce nom chez les Egyptiens ?
Naville - Revue Archéologique 1926 Vol 23 p.114 (
http://gallica.bnf.fr/) "Il est étrange que le nom de Pount soit exclusivement égyptien. Aucun autre peuple dans l’antiquité, ni les Hébreux, ni les Babyloniens, ni les Assyriens ou les Perses ne le connaît, et il n’est pas cité dans les inscriptions du sud de l’Arabie. Il semble que Pount ne désignait pas un pays défini, mais un groupe ethnique, l’ancienne population du sud de l’Arabie et de la côte orientale de l’Afrique, une vaste région que les auteurs grecs et latins appellent Ethiopie."
HISTORY OF PHŒNICIA by GEORGE RAWLINSON, M.A. Chapter III Pages 20-21
The testimony of history to the origin of the Phœnicians is the following. Herodotus tells us that both the Phœnicians themselves, and the Persians best acquainted with history and antiquities, agreed in stating that the original settlements of the Phœnician people were upon the Erythræan Sea (Persian Gulf), and that they had migrated from that quarter at a remote period, and transferred their abode to the shores of the Mediterranean.[9] Strabo adds that the inhabitants of certain islands in the Persian Gulf had a similar tradition, and showed temples in their cities which were Phœnician in character.[10] Justin, or rather Trogus Pompeius, whom he abbreviated, writes as follows:--"The Syrian nation was founded by the Phœnicians, who, being disturbed by an earthquake, left their native land, and settled first of all in the neighbourhood of the Assyrian Lake, and subsequently on the shore of the Mediterranean, where they built a city which they called Sidon on account of the abundance of the fish; for the Phœnicians call a fish /sidon/."[11] The "Assyrian lake" of this passage is probably the Bahr Nedjif, or "Sea of Nedjif," in the neighbourhood of the ancient Babylon, a permanent sheet of water, varying in its dimensions at different seasons, but generally about forty miles long, and from ten to twenty broad.[12] Attempts have been made to discredit this entire story, but the highest living authority on the subject of Phœnicia and the Phœnicians adopts it as almost certainly true, and observes:--"The tradition relative to the sojourn of the Phœnicians on the borders of the Erythræan Sea, before their establishment on the coast of the Mediterranean, has thus a new light thrown upon it. It appears from the labours of M. Movers, and from the recent discoveries made at Nineveh and Babylon, that the civilisation and religion of Phœnicia and Assyria were very similar. Independently of this, the majority of modern critics admit it as demonstrated that the primitive abode of the Phœnicians ought to be placed upon the Lower Euphrates, in the midst of the great commercial and maritime establishments of the Persian Gulf, agreeable to the unanimous witness of all antiquity."[13] If we pass from the probable origin of the Phœnician people, and their place in the Semitic group, to their own special characteristics, we shall find ourselves upon surer ground, though even here there are certain points which are debateable. The following is the account of their general character given by a very high authority, and by one who, on the whole, may be regarded as an admirer:-- "The Phœnicians form, in some respects, the most important fraction of the whole group of antique nations, notwithstanding that they sprang from the most obscure and insignificant families.
Arguments en faveur de Phéniciens = Pountites: Mer Noire & Mer Rouge sont des noms curieux. Chez les Chinois, Noir et Rouge sont respectivement les couleurs du Nord et du Sud. Il me semble avoir lu qu'il en est de même chez les Iraniens. Si les Phéniciens venaient du golfe persique, nommer Noir et Rouge les mers qui les entourent n'aurait rien de surprenant.
Hathor, représentée par une vache, est maîtresse de Byblos et de Pount. Son nom signifie : maison d'Horus. Les rois de Summer sont fils d'une vache. "tA-nTr" = terre du dieu est associé dans les textes égyptiens à Pount et au Retenu (la région de Byblos). Les Egyptiens nomment
Chemins d'Horus la route qui va de l'Egypte à Byblos.
http://www.atelierdupalmier.com/Etymologie.htm D'après ce lien Maspero avait fait le rapprochement entre Phéniciens et Puntites. Si quelq'un connait connait dans quel article il en parle merci de le signaler